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Given the overhwelming response to the Forum, I'm beginning a FAQ based on Forum responses. If you want to add something, please let me know.

-- Roger.
Highpoints Club FAQ

Is there a rule for vertical ascent on climbs to qualify?

No

On Line Resources

What is the online service for obtaining map,  peak and longitute/latitude information for peaks?

The USGS States and Territories Database
 

World Highpoints

Highest Points on the 7 Continents?

Asia Everest 8848 29028 Nepal/Tibet
S America Aconcagua 6956 22835 Argentina
N America McKinley 6194 20320 USA (Alaska)
Africa Kilimanjaro 5895 19340 Tanzania
Europe Elbrus 5636 18481 Russia
Antarctica Vinson 4897 16067 -
Australia Kosciusko 2228 7316 Australia

David MetskyJun 11 1998, 12:17 PM
 

United States Highpoints

ALASKA - MT. McKINLEY

Alaska Roadhouse Recommendation
Stop in at the Healy Roadhouse (short way north of Denali Park) for a hamburger. It will be an Alaskan experience guaranteed.

Flip 6/5/98
Alaska Discussion Group?
http://www.highest-state.com

 CALIFORNIA - WHITNEY
Whitney Day Hike Permits
They give out camping permits up to six months in advance. Day hiking is a different story. You can usually get a permit for a day hike at the Ranger Station in Lone Pine (it is right off the main drag, so it isn't hard to find). And Whitney has been done in a day before, so if you have strong legs and good knees... Here is their phone number and URL if you want to contact the Forest Service directly: 1-888-374-3773 http://r05s001.pswfs.gov/inyo/vvc/permits.htm

Whitney May Conditions
Snow levels are about normal on the east side of the range. Patchy below 9000 ft. and becoming complete between 9000-9500 ft. The depth seems average, and many ridges and steep rock faces are already clear of snow. There are occasional storms which dump some fresh snow, but this quickly melts when the sun comes out. There are some stronger storms which have been hitting the area,
however. This past weekend, my father was in Walker Basin, south of Lake Isabella, and said the fresh snow was heavy down to 6500 ft. Also, the west slope seems to have taken the brunt of the storms. The coverage on the west is greater than average, but probably not 200%.Check this URL to get a reasonable idea of what the snow cover is at various elevations and regions (Check the Owens River Drainage and Kern River Drainage): http://snow.water.ca.gov/current/snow/index.html

COLORADO - ELBERT
Elbert Black Cloud Approach
Last summer I did the East Ridge route, leaving from above the Lakeview Campground, just to the east of Twin Lakes. A decent route, but it can be confusing to get to the right trailhead, and to find the trail. I left before first light, but I recommend the route the night before. Coming down, it was like a day at the mall with all the traffic coming up - if you like crowds, you will be content here. Black Cloud route is a good choice to avoid the crowds and it gives you plenty of time on the high ridges - but it is a tougher route. this trail is more challenging than other routes and is less traveled. The hike is 11 miles with 5300' of total gain. The North Mt Elbert trail you speak of is a 9 mile hike with 5000' gain. Black Cloud also traverse over South Elbert which is said to have better views.

FLORIDA - BRITTON HILL
Florida Contact
Hey anyone coming down to Florida's high point and need some help let me now. I can give information from anything to a place to camp, motel and the fastest way to get there. I can also provide informations to most of the south state High Points. (AL,GA,NC,AR,LA,MS,TN) If I can be of any Help please let me know. I can be Reach at COYOTTE37 @AOL.COM

Coyotte 6/3/98
IDAHO - BORAH PEAK
Borah Peak Weather in June
My trip to Borah in June was extremely treacherous. Chicken ridge was a beast! I climbed it w/o crampons and almost fell off Chicken ridge and died. I'm one of the lucky ones. They just found a guys body in the spring thaw.
Brian Valentine
LOUISIANA - DRISKELL MOUNTAIN
Who do you contact for more information about Driskill Mountain?
I am live in Arcadia, Louisiana gateway to Driskill Mountain. If you need any help to get to Driskill Mtn when you come to town contact me at 263-2594 work or 263-8715 home. My wife Sherry works at the State Farm agency at the first traffic light south of exit #69 on I-20 if you would like to stop by and say hi.. You may want to contact Mr. Ledford Driskill concerning possible relatives. His phone number is 318-263-8031. He lives near the mountain. My EMail address is gedwards@bayou.com. Hope I have been soom help.
George Edwards 5/98
MAINE - KATAHDIN
Katahdin, Maine, Winter Permits
The park requires an application. Applications for winter hikes and climbs are accepted only after November 1 of the year you plan to climb. The application form asks for proof of qualifications and experience, and you must have at tleast 4 members in the ascent party. All members must file an application. Contact Baxter Park Authority in Millinocket for more info 207-723-5140. Call me at 207-623-9140 for more tips on winter trips to Baxter Park--we go often.
John James 7/18/98
MASSACHUSSETS - GREYLOCK
Greylock Camping?
Camping is permitted but limited to designated sites. There are shelters along the AT and the Sperry Campground has 34 tent sites and 5 group sites. Not far from the campground is the stony ledge view an excellent view of the Hopper (Mt Greaylock's valley).
Mike 7/10/98
NEVADA - BOUNDARY PEAK
Boundary Peak, Nevada, Why do I have to climb the 74th highest peak in California to get to the highest point in Nevada?
Wheeler Peak, now in Great Basin NP, the highest *mountain* located (completely with-) in Nevada. If your goal is to do the highpoints recognized by the State Highpointers Club, then Yes, you do have to do Boundary Peak. The club uses as it's source the state highpoints determined by the USGS.

CT (where I live) is similar to Nevada in the respect that the highest summit is not the state highpoint. Prior to more accurate surveys, people believed that they had reached the highpoint of CT once they had reached the summit of Bear Mtn. I believe that a sign atop the summit may still indicate that this is the case. The CT highpoint is actually the highest point of the CT/MA state line as it traverses over the south slope of Mt. Frissel whose summit is located in MA. This is a bit higher than the summit of nearby Bear Mtn.

Mike Fedor 6/5/98
NEW HAMPSHIRE - MT. WASHINGTON
Mt. Washington Flies in May?
Yes!

Mt. Washington Stage Service
The Mt. Washington Stage Service (stage as in stagecoach, they've been around a while) is on Rt. 16 across from the Auto Road entrance. They run vans up and back, with tour guide, etc, frequently throughout the day. The race may curtail their schedule, though. Call first; sorry I don't have the number handy (they are in Gorham, NH).

Mt. Washington Shuttle?
The AMC runs a hiker shuttle that will take you from Crawford back to Pinkham. Check the AMC
web site (http://www.outdoors.org) for details and a schecule.

David Metsky 6/98
Mt. Washington vs. Guam Winds?
The 236 MPH wind on Guam has been ruled a measuring error, leaving the 231 MPH reading on Wash the record. Guam probably has been affected by the fastest wind speed in a populated area in this day and age. (Unless I missed the 150,000 people living on Mt. Washington
David 4/25/98
Mt. Washington Routes
You have countless options on Mt. Washington. (I'm assuming you mean the one in NH. If not, feel free to stop here!) 1. Ammonousuc Ravine to Crawford Path. Really nice route and much less crowded than the Tuckerman superhighway. You could either return the same way, or if you REALLY like boulder hopping, you could return via the Jewel Trail. To do this route, stay in Twin Mountain, NH. I'd suggest the Four Seasons, Carlson's Lodge, or Paquettes if you stay there. 2. If you chose to do the mountain from the Pinkham Notch side, then I'd suggest one of 3 routes, listed in ascending order of difficulty:

Tuckerman Ravine to Lion Head. Rejoins Tuckerman Ravine Trail above the headwall and continues to the summit. It's about 8.5 miles round trip, and the Lion Head headwall is about the most difficult. A more difficult route is Tuckerman Ravine to Boot Spur. From there, you'd skirt across the top of the headwall and join Tuckerman Ravine Trail to the summit. It's longer and involves more bolder hopping. Finally, if you really want a challenge, you could take Tuckerman Ravine Trail to Huntington Ravine Trail. The scramble up Huntington Ravine is one step below technical and involves plenty of exposure. From the top of the headwall, it's all bolder hopping to the summit. You could come down via Tuckerman Ravine Trail. Be aware, though, that Huntington Ravine is billed as the most difficult trail in the White Mountains. (I don't agree with that, but the reputation is well earned and it's a serious hike.)

If you hike up the Pinkham side, I'd suggest staying in Gorham, not in the valley. The motels are cheaper and there is a nice breakfast place (Welch's) that opens at 5:30 AM.

Also on that side, if you're into a really good Guinness, there's the Tuckerman Tavern on Route 16B. They pour a perfect Guinness that's smooth as silk after a tough hike.

I spend a lot of time up in the Whites, so if you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me. BTW, be prepare for a huge crowd on that mountain. Between the hordes hiking up and the folks that drive or take the smog railroad, the summit area is absolutely packed.

-- Ron 7/1/98
Mt. Washington Great Gulf Route
I've preferred the great gulf wilderness trail for a long time. Everyone is up high, going peak to peak....the gulf cuts thru, up to a headwall, then ....wham!....the big picture! I've seldom seen more than a few folks on this trail headwall is not a tech climb. Stay at the dolly cop campground, right up the road.
Bill Stempek 7/2/98
Mt. Washington Most Difficult Route
That would be the Huntington Ravine Trail. It's considered the hardest regular trail in the Whites, even harder than Spellman. Spellman is steep, but there's a longer steep distance on Huntington's.

NEW MEXICO - WHEELER PEAK

Wheeler - Lost Lake/Bull of the Woods Approaches
Lost Lake/Horseshoe Lake trail is more scenic than the Bull of the Woods trail. Have you ever considered hiking the east fork trail or with more time the sawmill park trail. A nice loop can be made with that trail. You can hike up to Horsehoe Lake and spend the first night and then hike up to wheeler. After that, all the peaks can be scaled: Simpson, Old Mike, Red Dome, Taos cone, etc. A second night could be spent at Sawmill Park and then return to the east fork. This hike could be done in three days and you will see far fewer people than the other trails. One note: the second day hiking should start very early, so that you're not on the ridge in the afternoon (potential T-storms).

Karl 5/8/98
Wheeler - Williams Lake Approach
I ascended via the Willaims Lake Route. Holmes shows that route, Zumwalt doesn't, but it is the pack trail to the west of the Bull of the Woods Route on Zumwalt's map. This route is shorter and the view from Willaims Lake is special. But the climb from the Lake to the peak is super steep - there isn't a trail, you just have to grind on up. In fact it was so steep, that my knees balked at going back down, so I did the Bull of the Woods route. All and all, a great round trip.

Check out the Italian restaurant in the ski resort for a great meal after being on the roof of N.M. Also I remember a bakery a mile or two up Highway 150 - on the left hand side. A great place to stop for some baked goods on the drive up.

John M. Boyd
NEW YORK - MARCY
Marcy - Best Maps
Its been a few years since I hiked the high peaks but I have some excellent planning maps you should also purchase. They are large maps found at outdoor shops in the Adirondacks. The map you want is called the Adirondacks High Peaks Region. It is a large green map 3' by 2 1/2' it has a 1:62,500 scale with 20' topographic contours. It covers the whole High peaks region Mt Marcy, Hurricane Wilderness area, Keene Valley, Ect. Most important it has trails marked on it. It is a wealth of information for planning any trip to the High peaks.
Mike 7/10/98
NORTH CAROLINA - MT. MITCHELL

Mt. Mitchell Formation?
Mitchell as well as the other Appalachains were formed by the collision of two continental plates.

OKLAHOMA - BLACK MESA
Black Mesa, Oklahoma, New Approach
I climbed the OK high point, 23 May 98. It is no shorter to do the old way then the new. The new when you climb the mesa is not as steep as the old way will be. Its right at 4 miles each way. I am not a fast hiker (45) but I went up in 1 Hour 45 min, and down in 1 hour 10 min. It was hot even in May. It is worth the trip i took the new route the day after memorial day 98. frankly, with all the wandering you'd need to do to get permission, i don't think you'd save all that much time. i was on a ten-day, ten-state swing( a bit hurried also) and i knocked off the new route in no time. one note of caution about the new route tho. i was thinking that all the rattlers were up on the rocks on the side of the mesa.....WRONG! i almost got popped by one about one mile from the parking spot. also discovered a new bed and breakfast in the shadow of black mesa. went in and chatted...great folks and closeby. wish i had known earlier as i stayed in boise city in a....well....never mind. anyway, here's everything i have on the black mesa b&b: vicki roberts(she's a gas!)  1-580-261-7443 (the area code just changed) 1-800-866-3009 e-mail BMBB1@JUNO.COM

bill stempek 7/16/98
OREGON - MT. HOOD
Mt. Hood Weather in May
I attempted the south side of Mt Hood May 16. 1998, in a blinding snowstorm, howling winds, freezing cold, visibility about 50 feet. We got to 10,300' and turned around. Also don't forget about avalanche risk even if the weather is good.

RHODE ISLAND - JERIMOTH HILL
Alternative Approaches to Jerimoth Hill
An alternate approach from the south would avoid using the dirt road through Richardson's property, it still doesn't solve the problem that Brown University will not allow access to the state highpoint property that they own. As of now, they have failed to grant public access to their property so that the state highpoint can be visited. This problem is complicated by the fact that first public access to Brown University's land locked property must be obtained and then Brown University must allow public access to the highpoint. Both things must occur for the public to enjoy the RI highpoint.

Incidentally, there is a debate about a landfill in Johnston, RI, that is higher. The Highpoints Club only recognizes natural landmarks and not manmade.

Mike Fedor 5/98
 

WASHINGTON - MT. RAINIER

How do you contact RMI for guide service?
You can call RMI at 360-569-2227, or check out their home page at: http://www.mtrainierguides.com/index.html I had a bad experience with RMI personally, but unless you are a compentent alpine climber you sure don't want to try Rainier on your own either. Just get ready to be led on a death march. If you have no experience try some lesser peaks like Hood first.

Patrick Watson 5/13/98
Rainier Avalanches
Predicting avalanches is a real science and I am no expert.. but I think spring is the worst time for it as snow begins to melt. The high risk is when you get new snow on top of packed-in old snow, and the top layer peels off and slides downhill. That seems unlikely in Sept I would think. Remember thousands of people climb Rainier and other mountains every year w/o getting hit by avalanches. Fatalities like just happened are statistically quite rare but they get a lot of publicity when they do happen. The RMI guides are trained to recognize when conditions are too dangerous, and they won't hesitate to turn the group around if the risk is too great intheir judgement. They get paid regardless, and they don't want to get killed either!
Patrick Watson 6/13/98
Rainier Same Day Climb
I've climbed Rainier car to car in under 24 hours, this is not recommended due to the altitude. If you are acclimatized to sea level, you will feel terrible the last few thousand feet. At the very least one should arrive at Paradise early in the afternoon and sleep there instead of immediately running up.

For a fast ascent, I'd recommend the Fuhrer Finger as the quickest way from car to summit.

George Bell 6/18/98
Mike
WASHINGTON, D.C.

Washington, DC, Folklore
Ft Reno park in the Friendship Heights neighborgood of Washington DC, and has vistas of the Potomac River Valley, particularly at sunset. This is a neighborhood attraction year round, but especially on the 4th to see the tops of fireworks on the Mall. By way of DC folklore, it is still believed in some circles that military communications and control bunkers were installed in the man-made hill back in WWII.

John Marshal 6/16/98
 
 
 
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